From: Timothy Pilkington <timothy.pilkington@sjc.ox.ac.uk>
To: William Swadling <william.swadling@law.ox.ac.uk>
Robert Stevens <robert.stevens@law.ox.ac.uk>
Andrew Robertson <a.robertson@unimelb.edu.au>
Jason W Neyers <jneyers@uwo.ca>
obligations <obligations@uwo.ca>
Date: 04/11/2022 18:04:14 UTC
Subject: Re: ODG: Guest v Guest

I agree with Rob that many of these cases where ‘estoppel’ is applied as a cause of action should really be treated as claims for restitution for a failure of an agreed condition.

 

Equitable estoppels, properly so called, are a nice illustration of Equity operating as a form of second order or meta law. So, in addition to there being cases where Equity stops a party from exercising a specific right, there are also cases where a party is stopped from exercising a certain power (e.g., Hughes v Metropolitan Railway Co) or having the benefit of a particular immunity (e.g., Commonwealth of Aus v Verwayen).


 

From: William Swadling <william.swadling@law.ox.ac.uk>
Date: Friday, 4 November 2022 at 12:37 PM
To: Robert Stevens <robert.stevens@law.ox.ac.uk>, Andrew Robertson <a.robertson@unimelb.edu.au>, Jason W Neyers <jneyers@uwo.ca>, obligations <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: RE: ODG: Guest v Guest

Apologies, it was indeed much too strongly put. 

Bill

 

From: Robert Stevens <robert.stevens@law.ox.ac.uk>
Sent: 04 November 2022 17:33
To: William Swadling <william.swadling@law.ox.ac.uk>; Andrew Robertson <a.robertson@unimelb.edu.au>; Jason W Neyers <jneyers@uwo.ca>; obligations <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: RE: ODG: Guest v Guest

 

That is much too strongly put. I don’t think the decision in Guest v Guest is a highpoint in our law, but our current court is very strong. We all get one or two things wrong.

 

On the decision, the analysis of what “estoppel” is properly about is far superior in Lord Leggatt’s dissent than in the majority. His history is also correct, the majority’s is not.

 

Estoppel properly so-called concerns either being barred from asserting a fact (a rule of evidence) or being barred, or restrained, from asserting a right. The latter is the historically equitable form. It takes the form other equitable rules do: a rule about another rule. Inwards v Baker is an example of “proprietary estoppel” in its correct form.

 

The justifiable scope of rules barring the assertion of rights is much wider than the scope of the rules for the imposition of duties. What has happened, since the 1970s, is that a rule concerning the barring of asserting rights has jumped the rails and become a free standing cause of action.  In my view, that is a very serious mistake, and it is a shame that the two judges who have tried to return estoppel to being about estopping (Lord Scott in Cobb v Yeoman’s Row, and now Lord Leggatt) have not been followed. Part of the blame for the mess we’re now in lies with the academics who were so critical of Lord Scott.

 

I agree with Leggatt that any claim we have here is not about “estoppel” and I do not understand how to properly interpret the limits of the new cause of action the Supreme Court is now recognising (one which does not, on my reading of the older cases, have a pedigree from earlier than the late 1970s.)

 

How should we deal with the kinds of cases?

 

Here I disagree with Leggatt.

 

It is again unfortunate that these claims have not been put in the alternative as ones for restitution. They are identical on their facts to the classic Supreme Court of Canada decision in Deglman. Work has been done under an agreement. That work was conditional upon the son inheriting. That condition has failed. He is entitled to the value of the work. That is nothing to do with “reliance”, detrimental or otherwise (or indeed any factual benefit to the counterparty).

 

Maybe (a difficult question) in some cases we might also be prepared to impose a constructive trust in the alternative.

 

The majority also confuse when equity is legitimately “discretionary”. When we are in the realm of court orders (eg injunctions, specific performance) a much wider range of reasons come into play than are relevant in determining our substantive rights and obligations. In such cases (in equity) the court’s order may appear “discretionary” because of those many additional reasons that need to be brought into account. Outside of the context of court orders, a glance at the other substantive areas of equity (eg the law of trusts) shows that that they aren’t meaningfully “discretionary” and it is a misfortune that claims based upon “proprietary estoppel” are now perceived as a matter of flexible judicial choice.

 

We will now have to return again to this difficult area.

 

Rob

 

 

 

 

From: William Swadling <william.swadling@law.ox.ac.uk>
Sent: 04 November 2022 12:08
To: Andrew Robertson <a.robertson@unimelb.edu.au>; Jason W Neyers <jneyers@uwo.ca>; obligations <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: RE: ODG: Guest v Guest

 

Andrew,

 

You assume the non-speaking judges had reasons independent of those with whom they agreed.  I very much doubt that was the case.  And for that reason, the UK Supreme Court is very different to the HCA, where the judges do all seem to have views of their own.  Maybe that says something about the differences in calibre between the two courts.  You’re very lucky to have a much better bench than do we.

 

Best wishes,

 

Bill

 

From: Andrew Robertson <a.robertson@unimelb.edu.au>
Sent: 04 November 2022 07:18
To: Jason W Neyers <jneyers@uwo.ca>; obligations <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: Re: ODG: Guest v Guest

 

Thanks, Jason. Here is a link to the judgment for those who haven’t read it. I am trying to write something about the case for an Australian audience so I’ll save my substantive comments for that.

 

It is disappointing that the case was heard by a five-member bench given the importance of the issue as measured by the number of cases struggling with it in the Court of Appeal in recent decades, and existence of a ‘lively controversy’ identified by Lewison LJ in Davies v Davies [2016] EWCA Civ 463 [39], although I guess it does not satisfy any of the criteria for a bigger bench unless it is considered ‘a case of great public importance’.

 

It may seem perverse not to be satisfied with 85 pages or so (in the WLR) of reasoning, but given the extent of the disagreement between Lord Briggs and Lord Leggatt on fundamental issues, it would have been good to see some of the other justices explain their thinking (as the justices of the High Court of Australia might have done).

 

With best wishes,

Andrew

 

 

From: Jason W Neyers <jneyers@uwo.ca>
Date: Friday, 4 November 2022 at 3:55 am
To: obligations <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: [EXT] ODG: Guest v Guest

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Dear Colleagues:

 

I would be very interested to know what you thought of Guest v Guest.

 

From my point of view, Lord Briggs judgment (for the majority) is very disappointing and relies on lots of hand waving to fairness, injustice, and unconscionability. I don’t think he ever comes up with a good answer as to what unconscionability actually is. Its not detrimental reliance, he says on many occasions. It is not strictly the loss of expectation, since the courts do not have to always award that. Then what is it? How do I know that it is not unconscionable for the widow to demand her cottage back in violation of her promise in Sledmore v Dalby (1996) 72 P & CR 196 other than the fact “that the court was palpably offended at the injustice of [the defendant’s] conduct in insisting upon his supposed equity at a time when he hardly needed the property”.  Is it just conventional morality? I guess it is now unconscionable for the wealthy to demand performance of contracts or trusts or for them to launch tort claims against the uninsured.  Why is the doctrine limited to property? Why does this principle not swallow the whole law of contract? It is a just an incoherent mishmash of concepts, plucked from history, thrown into Martini shaker, and paraded around as an explanation.

 

In contrast, Lord Leggatt’s judgment (with which Lord Stephens concurred) is an internally coherent explanation of the contours and the component parts of proprietary estoppel or the property expectation claim, as he calls it--how they interrelate and fit together--and an externally coherent explanation as to how this doctrine coexists with the law of contract and property formality rules in a non-contradictory fashion. Moreover, he demonstrates how this could be a claim about injustice. And his history seems better. (The only failing is that he does not discuss why it is limited to promises to convey land). Now, one can disagree that the doctrine should exist or whether it was truly discernible from the earlier authorities about estopping the enforcement of rights, but at least his version of it makes sense. (In fact, for those who do not think that proprietary estoppel or property expectation claims are needed, I would be interested to know how you would have decided: quantam meruit?)

 

Congratulations go out to all the ODGers who were prominently cited. I would provide a list but I’m afraid to leave anyone out!

 

(Un)happy Reading,

 

esig-law

Jason Neyers
Professor of Law
Faculty of Law
Western University
Law Building Rm 26
e. jneyers@uwo.ca
t. 519.661.2111 (x88435)

 

 

 

 

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